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Links and Comments #13

June 29, 2013

Some more of the things that I’ve read which interest me:

A great comment by Dalrock commenter Anonymous Age 71 describing the main heresy of marriage in Churchianity: Effective Male Leadership Initiates Female Submission. This is seen time and again in Churchianity to the point it’s been addressed several times on this blog and directly rebuked here.

The command for husbands to step-up and lead their families is a heretical Churchian command manufactured out of whole cloth from misapplication of Scripture. The command given is for wives to submit, no matter how much the Churchian proctors wish to ignore it. It is Scriptural to say that Effective Female Submission Initiates Male Leadership. This is confirmed by Peacefulwife here:

It takes a LONG time of seeing that his wife is seriously permanently respecting him and honoring his leadership before most husbands feel safe enough to lead. At first it is VERY confusing for them! You can read my husband’s story here

You can also read another husband’s take on how scary it is to try to start leading when his wife never had let him lead before, here.

It is useful to compare secular and churchian marriage advice to see how far off the church is even from the standards of the world. For instance, we have the defective churchian logic involving single dads. These are good illustrations of why repentance is needed. None of these figures are going to repent because they are too self-interested – the real action needs to come from those who are supporting these people.
Helen Smith’s doing the media tour for her book and has an article out about why men aren’t getting married.

She’s hit a nerve with some, too.

Some might be waiting to see what I have to say about the Supreme Court ruling redefining marriage to be acceptable among homosexuals, but it’s really all been said. When you render what is God’s to Caesar and trample all over it yourself, don’t be surprised when certain parties petition the State to do something you don’t want with marriage or the State declares you married without your consent. It should go without saying that Christians need to repent of their wickedness towards marriage, instead of blindly advocating Marriage 2.0 and wishing for the rapture or they’ll find what Amos wrote to be true.
Sis unfortunately came up a lot recently along with other supposed “Red Pill” and “Christian” women.

She would have men jumping up and down making fools of themselves (like a dog hopping up and down frantically for a treat, this video represents what traditional feminist women expect out of men in dating) in order to show themselves to be worthy enough for a woman’s presence. The second part of her post is rendered impossible anyway for driving his frame and value so far into a worthless place by the former. Regardless, the man is the prize, not the woman. I could say much more, but Rollo and Martel got it covered.

Then we have the case of a group of Red Pill women (Sis included specifically for the lengths that she went to advocate deception) advocating lying to another woman regarding her partner count, which were addressed by Free Northerner and DonalGraeme. Experiencing the consequences of these kinds of things or witnessing them is what bring men to go their own way.

I pray she genuinely repents.

allamagoosa writes on how riding horses taught her the Red Pill.

embraceyourfeminity writes on how women shouldn’t change men and how women test men.

Farm Boy compares smart phone contracts to Marriage 2.0.

Deti’s guide to the SMP/MMP (Part 1, Part 2) written in response to a Churchian woman-worshipper named Paul. Of course, all he served to do was anger the men and disgust the women with his ways.

The better way of dealing with porn in marriage than the Sheila Gregoire method of using it as a lever to gain the husband’s submission to the wife.

A testimony of the corporate boyfriend.

Traditional feminism promotes a neurotic vision of love.

Frustration happens for us all in this online world because we are people with real needs, feelings and desires. The stuff going on IRL can affect you online and just wear you thin, coupled with the stuff online (believe me I know). We might gain a sense of community, but at the same time, those that step out and provide content can often be dehumanized into a web site or youtube channel where people say the nastiest things of you that they would never say to anyone in person. Then people can simply be dehumanized into pixels on a screen formed into characters in e-mails, texts, and IMs. Heaven forbid you show an inclination to change how you do things or show a bit of weakness and let your frustration come out. Then the long knives come out. Stardusk found this out recently, after doing this video:

Most of this is just a reminder that there are humans on the other ends of these things. As with spreading any message, especially God’s message you got to spread the message and keep on keeping on, but it’s still stressful. Genuine words of encouragement are always useful in any case, IRL or online, for those that are under stress and might not see results in front of them each day.

That’s all for now. Finally, the famous Russell Brand video. Like him or not, he taught a master class on social interaction here. There is much one can learn on how he dealt with these people.

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  1. I’d like to see a full acknowledgment of the “I’m sorry I did” explaining what, for the benefit of those outside, and not a memory-holing of the words, but an acknowledging of their wrongfulness, and an explanation why they were wrong, to show she actually understands it, and not a quick, rushed “oh well, God forgives me, I can give myself permission to stop feeling contrite’ kind of response. And an acknowledgment that it wasn’t us people who were wronged, but actually God and His standards, His ways. And a thorough explanation of what should have been said instead, and a statement to that effect.

    But that’s not likely to happen, and I’m no doubt bad for thinking it should.

  2. Bobbye permalink

    Genesis 5 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;

    2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created

    Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
    These two verses, one from before the Fall, one from after Pentecost are key to resolving the supposed conflict between men and women. I don’t say ‘supposed’ because there is no conflict, but because the real conflict is between man and God, between woman and God. In the Garden there was no conflict between man and woman as long as both were ‘submitted’ to God. Now that the image of God is restored to us through Jesus Christ, there is no conflict between men and women who are ‘submitted’ to Jesus. All of the conflict is from people operating ” in the flesh” instead of ” walking in the spirit”.All of God’s people should be ‘ submitting ourselves one to another in love’. Be true followers of Jesus:28“Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest.29“Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and YOU WILL FIND REST FOR YOUR SOULS.30“For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”

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