Links and Comments #10
Back to share more of what I’ve read lately…
There’s been much written about the idea of whether men should accept traditional feminism. Dalrock wrote his response. Traditional marriage is modern marriage and traditional marriage is matriarchal and man-hating, so it generated a number of good responses from people who know better.
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GBFM points out the near patently obvious to everyone not tainted by feminism that the traditionalists bear false witness against the men in blaming them continually and giving women a free pass.
This is par for the course with all of feminist society, since it is a wicked thing to criticize women for any way. This has been proven time and again, most notably compare the treatment that Kermit Gosnell received and the treatment the man received who gave a woman an involuntary abortion by pill with the woman who was completely and totally acquitted for leaving a newborn for dead in a Walmart bathroom. Women get the p**** pass for everything they do and are above any kind of accountability, while men are crucified.
Commenter imnobody00 points out that the traditional feminists are part of the problem with marriage and with all feminist practice, since they recognize the current form of marriage as holy and right and do not oppose the wickedness and vile adulteries perpetuated in the name of marriage. Conversely, the attitudes behind MGTOW are Marriage 1.0 related – the opposition to MGTOW comes because men are daring define the value of their lives outside of the servitude to women.
Lyn87 points out the callousness that is typical towards men on these things. This is just another instance of the dehumanization and disposability of men. Men are really getting hurt and it’s not a matter of manning-up and “being a conqueror”, those that are hurt need help! The traditionalist, who sent the man down the path to marriage walks by the wounded half-dead man and says “too bad you need to man-up and be a conqueror”. The manospherian walks by and says “stop being a mangina and start being a real man”. There are men that need others to have compassion on them. There’s a time and place to “stop being a victim and be a conqueror”, but that’s AFTER the wounds have been dealt with, not DURING. There’s too many men being left bleeding on the side of the road because even those who have supposedly taken the Red Pill are still holding onto a shred of man-hating feminism. It’s this kind of attitude that makes people think male suicide is funny and allowed The Talk to get away with a ridiculous joke of an apology instead of being run off the air for good and then lynch-mobbed like what would happen if a man joked of a woman’s mutilation.
Other stuff related to marriage:
Proof of my last post: You can’t marry without the State making it a devil’s three-way.
A wife being a helpmeet the way it was meant to be. Prayers go out to LadySadie and the rest of those involved with the tornadoes. The hope is also there that it doesn’t take the requirement of tornado damage cleanup for this to happen for those already married.
But does glorifying the Personal Jesus make tattoos right?
Moving from the unicorn to what is much more typical and common: It is heartening for the future, though, that every commenter almost down to the individual is blasting her for being a self-centered egotistical princess [censored]. Seeing this kind of garbage coming from wives who only prosper from it is why men are not marrying. The traditionalists would do much better to put their energy into putting the wicked rebellion of these women to an end and fighting against all the other vile adulteries that modern traditionalist marriage represents than set out to bring single men who are acting with wisdom and discernment to the same wicked ends as these. But if they were to do that they would have to repent of their man-hating ways, now wouldn’t they? More proof that misery loves company.
Yes red-pill women exist. However, as proven by last week’s video made by feminist MRA Kristina Hansen, the story of the scorpion and frog takes hold. Some video responses from barbarossa and stardusk (language warnings):
The moral of the story: As much as any woman might be anti-feminist, she can never ever be pro-male. As a woman, she can only remit into neutrality. An anti-feminist anti-male woman is still a misandrist supporter of feminism.
Random stuff:
Hannah writes a brilliant comment on tattoos and how they are viewed on women.
DayKoons: Why I Am Not An Atheist.
A Mentu repost: How to Get Him To Propose
Red Pill Knowledge: Women want any kind of attention they can get, so give reinforcement with women on the proper feedback.
The Karamazov Idea (Private when I checked these. So links and no descriptions in case the situation is temporary): You Know You’re Speaking The Truth – What Kills Love?
Dr. Helen Smith has a book coming out.
On Chivalry, specifically female infantilisation though male disposability gets a look in. Related: The perversion of chivalry.
Rollo: Value-Added – He’s Special
Free Northerner responded to my response. I really don’t have anything more to say except on the following:
I highly doubt most slaves had a choice in the matter and willfully traded their freedom for the care of their master.
I think what we have heard about black slavery in the south colors our perceptions too much when it comes to Scriptural matters. The slavery in Scripture mostly doesn’t involve kidnapping and racism. It involved an economic exchange much like what we think of the employer-employee relationship today. As R.C. Sproul writes:
Paul was not concerned with overturning slavery itself, and it should be noted that slavery in the ancient Roman Empire was closer to the modern-day employer-employee relationship, not the slavery of other eras based on kidnapping and racism, which Scripture abhors (Ex. 21:16; Gal. 3:28). In any case, to dishonor our supervisors today, as with a slave’s dishonoring of his master in the first century, falsely depicts Christianity, “as if God, whom we worship, incited us to rebellion, and as if the gospel rendered obstinate and disobedient those who ought to be subject to others” (John Calvin).
In fact, any Scriptures that speaks of these things is applicable to us. Society didn’t have massive companies and corporations to be employed with. You could trade goods for goods, but if you didn’t have goods you could trade labor as a currency for a set period of time. This is nothing different than the “choice” we have to take jobs today. We trade labor for money, which we trade for goods.
Old visitor allamagoosa has a new blog. Please check it out. Until next time!
This:
More proof that people are watching married people to see what things are like and are sold or not sold on marriage based on what is seen.
Yeah, to comment a bit on the slavery in the OT, this was mostly a voluntary means of getting one’s self out of poverty. On the seventh year of servitude, the owner was supposed to set the slave free, but if the slave loved his master, he could have his ear pierced and continue being in servitude. On top of that, the slaves could own property, and female slaves were not to be treated as literal sex objects.
And it would be double-minded on God’s part to warn Israel on being against oppression as they were oppressed in Egypt and yet have this institution of slavery IF they were one in the same thing.
Thank you for the link love! Our damage was an unmitigated pain in the backside, but I am sincerely appreciative of the prayers that come our way. My hope is that women can see from the mess that we had via weather damage, that there are opportunities to help every single day without having to suddenly rise to the occasion i the face of an unexpected emergency. Simple acts of kindness and service to your partner are very satisfying and certainly build up the strength of a relationship.
Thanks again for the recognition and your kind words and prayers!